2 years ago
shannonl5
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Think You Know Spider-Man?

Think again!

'Empire' actor Bryshere Y. Gray, a.k.a. Yazz the Greatest started a campaign to become the first live-action black Spider-Man this week. (Via) "I'm young and pretty and I represent the youth in America and speak to them in a way no one can at this time. I'm the American Idol. And I like to climb and fly through the sky and also would look amazing in the Spider-Man outfit." He's definitely not kidding, and I have to say, he looks dope in the spidey suit.

He's not the first person to argue that Spider-Man has this potential.

Donald Glover aka Childish Gambino launched a similar campaign back in 2011, and he ended up getting cast as the voice actor for Miles Morales in the animated series Ultimate Spider-Man. If you're not familiar with the comics, Miles is currently Spider-Man; he's also African-American and Hispanic. Unfortunately, people didn't see this campaign as a celebration of the potential heroes have to represent all of us and change lives: They saw it as a threat.
(Warning for racial slurs):

Turns out black people like heroes, too.

And in other news, water is wet. The reason Spider-Man is so beloved has very little to do with his passion for science or his skill with photography. It has everything to do with the fact that he is a hero. His story is universal. And that won't change if he's young or old, black or white. But the thing is, almost all of our fictional heroes are white men. What's the assumption there? That only white guys care about heroes? That it would be impossible for that "core" audience to relate to a hero that didn't look at speak and act exactly like they do? Because everyone else has been doing that for years. Makes me question what's so "threatening" about this version of Spider-Man.
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@shannonl5 yeah it would make me laugh if it wasn't so infuriating.Do they really hate PoC that much? Do they really hate us so much that they can't even TRY to relate to us? Why is the possibility of seeing us on screen so threatening?don't we all have the same interests? it just makes me so sad because it really shows how hateful people can be.Also it really shows how entitled people can be.we've had this discussion before Shannon. these "fans" have been spoiled and catered to,and just the THOUGHT of PoC having the same treatment is extremely upsetting to them.
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@kuzuri96 its the least they could do.Blade literally saved Marvel.They could at least represent PoC in Marvel.
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@ChosenKnight you're so right. And of course a lot of the language people use to talk about that ends up dodging a lot of what you're talking about. "It's not tradition" or something like that. But comics used to push as hard as they could. It's why the comics code was created, to try to keep the creators "in check" and stop them from telling stories that challenged people. Part of the comic book tradition is in fact NOT catering to those in power. I think it's what appeals to people about these stories. It's the underdog. It's the people who have been ignored and isolated and demonized and had their humanity taken away. I wish that people were more willing to celebrate THAT tradition. @kuzuri96 so true, Blade kept things going. And he's a great character!
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exactly. that's one thing that I love about comics,especially Xmen. they were willing to address the inequality during the civil rights era ,as well as during the Holocaust. and on a much lesser scale its supposed to be a place for people to feel welcome an comfortable.but now the fandom is just full of hateful spoiled people who can't except the fact that things are slowly changing. this will kind of be off topic, but what you said about "tradition" makes me think about how a lot of people say about the red skins.I had a discussion about this with some people from my church. they were saying that the title wasn't meant to offend but that it was just "tradition".But why is your enjoyment of a tradition more important than other peoples feelings? there are plenty of archaic things that used to be tradition back in the day.shroud we just keep IP those practices just because its fun? no.we should be progressing as a society,and if that means letting some things go,we should be willing to do so in order to move forward.And Marvel has to also be held accountable for this as well.one of the reasons I was so pleased with star wars was because of the portrayal of the characters of color,and the female characters.Is was actually really brave when I think about it.they were willing to step out on a limb by casting a black storm trooper,and guess what?the movie was still awesome.More people should be that willing to make choices like this.
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@ChosenKnight oh my goodness we had the same discussions about mascots at my high school (yup, we were the "reds" and it was gross). It wasn't even a tradition! It was barely a few decades and it would have hurt no one to change it. I think that people can become very stubborn about stuff like this and once they are it's very hard to break those thought/behavioral patterns. But it's possible. I've seen it happen and I know I've changed a lot in the past decade and changed a lot of my behavior to be more respectful and understanding. But it happens after a lot of listening and absorbing, and not overnight. And in the meantime everyone else is getting the short end of the stick (so to speak)
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