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Bars are Too Loud, Cafes are Too Quiet
A noise gap has developed in American public life, and it’s a problem. The bars—at least those frequented by people under 40, who historically drive bottom-up political movements—have gotten louder. How loud? In 2012, the New York Times found that bars in that city regularly reached decibel levels so dangerously high that they violated federal workplace safety standards. The cafés, meanwhile, have gotten quieter. For centuries, coffee was used as a conversation stimulant. But in the present-day U.S., it functions primarily as productivity booster. Coffee long ago penetrated the workplace, and now cafés themselves have become workplaces. This really bugs me, both places are now terrible for meeting others.
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@joebiden this is pretty true in touristy spots like SEA but untrue in east Asia. In japan and SK you stick with the people you went to the bar with. Coffee shops are not really social anywhere ive been though unfortunately
Yeah @teamwaffles there should be a mix of both quiet bars and quiet cafes, maybe the ones I go to are just off and the good ones exist!
Good pubs tend to be rowdy. I have nothing wrong with a pub with a bit of life, especially the football ones I visit. I do hate however, how cafes have become a place to work for laptop based workers to sit down and concentrate. Cafes are supposed to be nice places where people intermingle and talk over a cup of coffee or a nice cheap date with your other half to help take a small load off the mind. It's not a library you know?