it's interesting especially in the case of bigbang.. because they werent even recognized until Lies was release, which was a year after their debut.. and even then, they were still not globally known. Only after multiple hits including haru haru, sunset glow, and heaven, people began to notice them. That was around 2008. Kpop wasn't that popular back then. it wouldve been really hard to be a fan of a foreign boy group because not a lot of things were subtitles or captioned. internet was growing but it didn't provide the world wide connection like now.. so when none-korean people say they have been a fan since the groups debut.. it kind of bothers me. i guess i shouldnt but i cant help but immidietly doubt them. i mean, why lie about how long youve liked a group? is it because the duration of your affection seemingly represent your dedication and loyalty? idk.. Ive been a fan for over 7 years and I am content with that. im not going to lie and claim that 2 years. you know? :/ sorry for my bitterness. its 2am and i cant sleep.